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PVP Team Preview ! 1 hour Pool NOT FAIR. [LOCKED]

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Taskete

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Hello , i would like to talk about this "team preview".

#1 Why only one hour of pool?
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Regardless of my pvp rating , as a PRO player i would like to remember that only "1" (ONE) hour it not fair for all regions GMT, this seems rigged, why? no such transparency, make any public sistem inviable, this was not an "PUBLIC" voting, why? we didn't get a true aproach at all PRO comunity, you guys have many media resorces Twiter/Youtube/Forums and Discord, and using discord #Annoucements only to a thread with 3 pages and 25 votes < 25 only, our ranked ladder have 50 names, being "Top SILVER 25 Ranked Rating "/ Top GOLD 25 Ranked Rating, half of the most dedicated player where not listened at all, i don't need to vote , but they do need to be listened.
We have 2 servers with 3000 players, i do understand that mostly will not pvp, but lets "Guess" that 10% do play pvp, 300 ? , ok whats is the viability of this "hidden" 25 votes from 300 ?
Better Statistics:
recently we had the summer pvp event, event that is happening now, lets assume these are "worth" numbers to compare to:
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96 players , how is that reasonable with only 25 votes? to change a game world mecanic with team preview, we need to aproach this with care, and not rush it. If you guys WANT to make team preview, just do it , but do not make an appeal of "public" right of transparency with such important change, you should've change without asking if so. but since you "tried" to ask, make it worth a discussion and a forum thread with an fixed message at the top of the page. please do not rush, be respectfull give it a week at least.
This is a MMO game, it should respect the majority of active players , and not only , a seclude amount of "privileged" votes from only 1 hour pool that where at the right place and right time. (nothing against anyone that participated).

Q: why it should be Done Another thread?
A: It should respect everyone, with proper time, for all GMT.

Q: The amount of votes where the problem?
A: No, The 1 hour deadline was.

Q: why ADD team preview when you have this:
party inspection.png


Q: How is this feature will interact with this "game" mechanic?

Q: About "RNG" Based arguments? source: https://assets.pokemon.com//assets/cms2/pdf/play-pokemon/rules/play-pokemon-general-event-rules-en.pdf Oficial Pokemon!

A: " 11.2. Random Determination Players may never determine the outcome of a match through a random means (flipping a coin, rolling dice, etc.). Other choosing methods or games such as Rock-Paper-Scissors, which arguably have some degree of skill, are treated the same as random determination if used directly to determine the outcome of a match."

Frozzen/Flicnh/Burn/Poison/Sleep/Critical hit are game Mechanic.!

Q: is "team preview" Rng? or a game mechanic?
A: I do belive that "team preview" is a game mechanic. because turning it "on/off" makes 2 separeted games.

Q: with/without "team preview" "skill Based argument"?
A: With "team preview" i do belive you can limit the thought process when you know exactly wich are the enemy pokemon and how you play around it, making all your resorces to defined outcomes. skill based on pokemon tipe/niches combined, and probability of 4 possible moves to each pokemon. simple.

Without "team preview" , you need to pratice and develops an "skill" of "real time strategy"["The tasks a player must perform to succeed at an RTS can be very demanding, and complex user interfaces have evolved to cope with the challenge"], where you need to think and prepare your moves to a "possible" move of your oponent, tipes/niches/Switch/and more, based on what this game has to offer.( uncoded/buged moves/itens/abilitys and pokemon mostly being "taken out of the equation"). i do Belive this is best for "skill based" sistem. because you need more information/preparation/study.


Now my Questions to you:
Q: Where is the reasoning to do a change from oficial PRO staff member here at forums?
Q: Is there a possiblity to do separeted mecanics to team preview, one for unraked sistem, another for ranked sistem?

Thank you!
 

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Hello , i would like to talk about this "team preview".

#1 Why only one hour of pool?
View attachment 28978

Regardless of my pvp rating , as a PRO player i would like to remember that only "1" (ONE) hour it not fair for all regions GMT, this seems rigged, why? no such transparency, make any public sistem inviable, this was not an "PUBLIC" voting, why? we didn't get a true aproach at all PRO comunity, you guys have many media resorces Twiter/Youtube/Forums and Discord, and using discord #Annoucements only to a thread with 3 pages and 25 votes < 25 only, our ranked ladder have 50 names, being "Top SILVER 25 Ranked Rating "/ Top GOLD 25 Ranked Rating, half of the most dedicated player where not listened at all, i don't need to vote , but they do need to be listened.
We have 2 servers with 3000 players, i do understand that mostly will not pvp, but lets "Guess" that 10% do play pvp, 300 ? , ok whats is the viability of this "hidden" 25 votes from 300 ?
Better Statistics:
recently we had the summer pvp event, event that is happening now, lets assume these are "worth" numbers to compare to:

96 players , how is that reasonable with only 25 votes? to change a game world mecanic with team preview, we need to aproach this with care, and not rush it. If you guys WANT to make team preview, just do it , but do not make an appeal of "public" right of transparency with such important change, you should've change without asking if so. but since you "tried" to ask, make it worth a discussion and a forum thread with an fixed message at the top of the page. please do not rush, be respectfull give it a week at least.
This is a MMO game, it should respect the majority of active players , and not only , a seclude amount of "privileged" votes from only 1 hour pool that where at the right place and right time. (nothing against anyone that participated).

Q: why it should be Done Another thread?
A: It should respect everyone, with proper time, for all GMT.

Q: The amount of votes where the problem?
A: No, The 1 hour deadline was.

Q: why ADD team preview when you have this:
View attachment 28981

Q: How is this feature will interact with this "game" mechanic?

Q: About "RNG" Based arguments? source: https://assets.pokemon.com//assets/cms2/pdf/play-pokemon/rules/play-pokemon-general-event-rules-en.pdf Oficial Pokemon!

A: " 11.2. Random Determination Players may never determine the outcome of a match through a random means (flipping a coin, rolling dice, etc.). Other choosing methods or games such as Rock-Paper-Scissors, which arguably have some degree of skill, are treated the same as random determination if used directly to determine the outcome of a match."

Frozzen/Flicnh/Burn/Poison/Sleep/Critical hit are game Mechanic.!

Q: is "team preview" Rng? or a game mechanic?
A: I do belive that "team preview" is a game mechanic. because turning it "on/off" makes 2 separeted games.

Q: with/without "team preview" "skill Based argument"?
A: With "team preview" i do belive you can limit the thought process when you know exactly wich are the enemy pokemon and how you play around it, making all your resorces to defined outcomes. skill based on pokemon tipe/niches combined, and probability of 4 possible moves to each pokemon. simple.

Without "team preview" , you need to pratice and develops an "skill" of "real time strategy"["The tasks a player must perform to succeed at an RTS can be very demanding, and complex user interfaces have evolved to cope with the challenge"], where you need to think and prepare your moves to a "possible" move of your oponent, tipes/niches/Switch/and more, based on what this game has to offer.( uncoded/buged moves/itens/abilitys and pokemon mostly being "taken out of the equation"). i do Belive this is best for "skill based" sistem. because you need more information/preparation/study.


Now my Questions to you:
Q: Where is the reasoning to do a change from oficial PRO staff member here at forums?
Q: Is there a possiblity to do separeted mecanics to team preview, one for unraked sistem, another for ranked sistem?

Thank you!
Hi there. Please refrain from posting your topic twice on two different sub-forums. The appropriate staff member will get to your complaint when they can. Please be patient as you wait for a response. You can also bump the thread every 24 hours for good visibility.

Now, with that said, I'll now lock this thread as a response will be given on your complaint instead. Good luck and have a nice day!
 
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